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Major
Asspain
Just a Son
of a
Bitch?
(6/15/01 2:40:47
pm)
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Nice dodge
but.....
since you choose to jump around the answers instead of actually
answering the points I made, I'll just say that I agree to disagree
with you. And if you honestly feel that you have answered the
points, then I would observe that your indoctrination seems to have
taken pretty well.
Sounded just like the non-answering
double-speak I got from the guy who supposedly is looking out for ME
when I called for more info....aaarrrggghhhhh.......do you REALLY
believe that?
blleeeecchhh.....
WB
STILL - Fight the
"Hamster" in you!! |
DarciM
DreamDiva
(6/15/01 4:01:54 pm)
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No dodge, nailed
ya squarely
Double-speak? Jumping around? Where? Perhaps things simply aren't
as black and white as you'd prefer them. Admittedly that's the
nature of the law as it's written and there's nothing I can
personally do about that for you. Sorry.
Consider this: I've
been a songwriter and musician all my life. I worked at BMI for 8
years. Do you really think I didn't weigh the pros and cons of every
minute detail before I made a decision as to where I stand? You
really think I'm that easily brainwashable? Please. I am not a
stupid or easily swayed woman. PROs fuck up indeed and I have plenty
ROTTEN to say about how BMI runs its business and treats it
employees as well, but I do believe the general service they provide
is on the side of the songwriter as compared to record labels who
are ONLY out for themselves. The problem with songwriters is that
they can't see past their own personal, selfish needs and beyond
into the good of the majority of their community as a
whole.
So BLLLLEEEEECCCCCCHHHH right back. 
~Darci Monet
Darci Monet
LilMinx
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Major
Asspain
Just a Son
of a
Bitch?
(6/15/01 6:21:21
pm)
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How
useless.....
I hate this kinda of meandering 1/2 truth argument you're throwing
up, it's like a politician.
Yeh - I posted what I did as a
self-serving infantile songwriter who knows nothing about this
business. Get educated. You're not the only person who's been
around.....
And yes, you did jump all around and next to the
points without ever hitting the land mine in the middle.
I
think the idea that you appear to be trying to present is that most
if not all of the blame for these kinds of situations rests on the
shoulders of the artist community. It is my position that you are
clearly biased because of the indoctrination that you were subjected
as an obvious neccessity of the work you used to do. This sort of
mindset is necessary when put into this kind of work, otherwise how
could otherwise reasonable and fair people do their work?
All
readers - I stand by these things I've said, as well I stand by the
facts of the case as I've related them, regardless of the
insinuation that it is not as I have stated. Please ask yourself why
I would lie, what purpose would that serve? Also ask yourself why I
would post the original thread if not to illuminate a problem that
has very real consequences for everyone who performs in these type
of venues? How would that be self-serving? What could I hope to
gain?
Even though the focus of this has shifted to some jihad
by someone with a clear agenda, the central point of what I started
here has not changed, the situation still exists, and the potential
results are the same. Now you know this thing is out there, no
matter who's *fault* it is, so be warned if you live in that world.
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DarciM
DreamDiva
(6/15/01 6:42:22 pm)
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Re: How
useless.....
Quote:
And yes, you did jump all around and next to the points without
ever hitting the land mine in the middle.
Again I ask,
where?
I have never once called you a liar or implied that
you were. Please don't put words in my mouth.
I stand by
everything I've said too...as someone who knows BOTH sides of the
situation, inside as an employee and outside as a songwriter. In
light of that, it seems to me that if anyone in this debate is less
informed than the other, it's certainly not me.
Your agenda
is just as clear as mine, so please let's not make ME out to be the
bad guy here. Neither of us are.
~Darci Monet
Darci Monet
LilMinx
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Chylon
Who is this person?
(6/16/01 11:42:19 am)
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something to be alarmed about.
DarciM
Quote:
If you are getting airplay and aren't being paid royalties for
it...CALL YOUR PRO AND TELL THEM. That is of course, IF you
bothered to register your songs with them in the first place.
And how many times
should one do that? In my thirty-plus years (this round) with BMI
there are THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS paid to ATT doing just that! The end
result?
ZERO!
So,
you stupid bitch, WHO do you 'call' at BMI to get into their Pay or Pittance
Clique?
Care to answer that one?
The FACT IS, you CAN'T answer it, because THERE ISN'T 'anybody'!
Quote:
Trust me when I say the PROs do the best they can...
And THAT is a God Damned Bald Faced LIE Of The
First Magnitude!
Point blank.
Period.
You
might be programmed into such stupidity, but rest assured the rest
of us are not. Yes. You may quote me.
Quote:
No one wants to close a venue. Hell, they close a venue and less
money for the PRO, right? Why would they want to do that? They are
trying, but the law is that music has to be licensed if you're
going to use it. You ask venues not to and you have to ask record
labels, film companies and radio stations not to, either. Then NO
ONE would get paid.
I'm sorry, I'm not wrong. Again I'll
state that PROs do not want to shut businesses down; as a matter
of fact, they literally CAN'T shut a business down.
One more God Damned Bald Faced LIE Of The
First Magnitude! Another "Point blank."
Another "Period." And I'll be damned happy to document, case after
case of outrageous fines, penalties and law suits. But if you were
at BMI for "8" years and didn't see any of that, then your 'job'
must have been in some broom closet.
Quote:
I don't have a "rebuttal", per se. I will merely share my
knowledge, which is extensive in this particular field whether you
all want to respect that or not. If I sound frustrated it's
because I argued the "why you have to license" subject every day
for 8 years with venue owners in an effort to protect songwriters
and needless to say it's very disheartening to get flack from the
songwriters themselves, too.
If THIS is an 'example'
of your 'knowledge, which is extensive' you can damned well bet that
"I", for one, DO NOT 'respect' it. I've heard such mealy-mouthing
for years, from the God Damned Lying
Thieving BASTARDS at ASCAP, BMI and SESAC,
from perpetual damned fools like STILL, from all manner of
know-nothing-and-do-less psychopaths and the many never-wases and
ain't-never-going-to-bes that infect and infest this Best Of All
Industries. YOU are just one more example of jackass elements who
can't stand the heat of TRUTH!
Quote:
I'm sorry Chylon...I just have no response to your post because
you are so clearly hysterical about it that anything I say will
just go in one ear and out the other anyway. You don't want to
hear what I'd have to say, so for the most part I won't bother.
I REST MY CASE!
STILL
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I for one have ALWAYS admitted Bobby's knowledge and the basic
correct-ness of his stance. I just don't like the way he treats
people, and me in particular. And he DOES tell a lot of 1/2-truths
that I have always been unhappy with in regards to his current
endeavors with the satellite placement of songs and all that.
You gutless bastards, I DARE YOU TO FIND ANY HALF OR OTHER
NON-TRUTHS ANYWHERE IN MY SITE, MY REPLIES, OR POSTINGS ANYWHERE AT
ANY TIME!
CUT AND PASTE THEM YOU SNIVILLING SON OF A
BITCH!
Quote:
The fact is that he would carry a lot of weight if he would spend
more time explaining realities, and less time spewing like a
lunatic. But that's his call and he's welcome to whatever stance
he wants to take. He does have a massive amount of
knowledge........
The fact is 'I DO CARRY A LOT OF WEIG In the REAL
world of Recorded Music and Entertainment. And I CARRY IT because I
DO NOT tolerate the perpetual, oh whine, bullshit you brainless
losers, who make ordinary Beer Joint Baritones look like geniuses by
comparison, swear and be-damned is God, Law and Gospel! And continue
to do so year in and year out in spite of the fact NONE OF YOU can
produce so much as one example of such poppycock EVER working for
anyone at any time! Period.
If being ACCURATE, if being HARD
POINT, if being HONEST, is "spewing like a lunatic" then I am very proud to be listed among the
insane! But if being GUTLESS, if being
STUPID, if being DELUDED, as the IDIOT ELEMENT perpetually proves
themselves to be, is 'the real pussy-tangent world' you and the rest
of your clan of damned fools obviously prefer then I am equally proud to recognize your listing
among the Eternally Jackassed!
That
Damned Akurian
General Bobby
Farrell.
Former
COO, Vandor Music Group
mailto:%20thegeneral@vmgwordlwide.org
http://www.vmgworldwide.org/
No
Artist has to be on an Independent
Label,
No Songwriter has to be un-published!
Click on the logo and get
the facts!
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sleblanc
Centenarian
(6/16/01
12:08:29 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
Man, I didn't realize how much I missed Bobby...here here. 'Damned
Idiot Element'
Quote:
So, you stupid bitch, WHO do you 'call' at BMI to get into their
Pay or
Pittance Clique?
YIKES!
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AlternativeStatic
Harry Potter
(6/16/01
12:20:56 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
it's "Damned and Contemptible Liars and Thieves". Get it right,
sleblanc
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sleblanc
Centenarian
(6/16/01
12:23:32 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
Oh, one of many classic sayings man... "Beer Joint Baritones" and
"Idiot Element" were always my favorites.
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AlternativeStatic
Harry Potter
(6/16/01
12:24:56 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
Quote:
"Beer Joint Barintones"
oh good Christ, I had
forgotten that one!
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DarciM
DreamDiva
(6/16/01 5:19:13 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
Chylon, you really need counseling. I could have helped you - I'm
normally glad to and bust ass to. But not for people who act like
escaped mental ward patients and call me a stupid bitch. Big
mistake.
~Darci Monet
Darci Monet
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DarciM
DreamDiva
(6/16/01 5:24:17 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
P.S. Pais...maybe it's time for this one to settle into the mosh
pit...?
~Darci Monet
Darci Monet
LilMinx
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Chylon
Who is this person?
(6/16/01 7:47:14 pm)
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something to be alarmed about.
Majorasspain,
Yes - I did know that you were Still. My clue
was that you are always "checking to check" on something.
Document the 1/2 truth from the
vmg website!
Post it on the vmg
board if you've the guts!
Chylon
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Chylon
Who is this person?
(6/16/01 7:48:05 pm)
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Re: Here's
something to be alarmed about.
Phil,
You didn't answer my questions and I asked them so
reasonable too.
Bobby retired as COO from Vandor. Of course,
when I mentioned this thread, as you can see he responded in his
usual manner and style. He used my name to logon, but even you can
recognize his style. Ain’t no one else that can do The General like
man himself can.
Anyway, he is still VERY much active in the
industry and is doing some awesome things. His email is mailto:%20thegeneral@vmgworldwide.org.
Send him a note and tell him hello. Of course, you can wait for
Majorasspain to take the challenge and post the 1/2 truth on the vmg
board, jump to his ass’ defense if he's got the guts to post it
there, and then you can tell him hello and wish him well
yourself.
As for educating the Idiot Element, BJB's, and
Paranoids, they'll always do the job of staying out of the
competition, so no one has to spend any money shelving them, so that
those who will make the money, can. Ain't that what that Damned and
Contemptible company that was proven guilty of stealing people's
royalties_mp3.com has been to the Indy Artist!
Now Phil -
Aren't Cole and rdeaver typical Idiot Elements that even you've
tried to educate or inform? I’ve seen some of things that you’ve
said and I know that you’ve been right - pretty good responses
too.
Check out these for a blast from the
past.
http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/MP3Threads/Gunburner1.htm
http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/MP3Threads/Gunburner2.htm
http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/MP3Threads/Gunburner3.htm
Remember the BIG DEAL the Liars from that Damned and
Contemptible company made about the issue? Check out Gunburners P4P.
That might give you a laugh.
Chylon
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Chylon
Who is this person?
(6/16/01 7:49:15 pm)
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something to be alarmed about.
DarciM,
Did you read the latest? The courts found in favor
of Zomba. biz.yahoo.com/st/010612/27105.html
If ASCAP and BMI did their jobs, where were they protecting
Zomba's rights against mp3.com?
Can't explain that one
either huh - unless the explanation is that they are the Damned
Liars and Thieves the VMG Campers call them. BMI and ASCAP are
Damned Liars and Thieves and the Lying and Thievery is Fully
Endorsed by Corrupt Lawyers and Judges!
I copied the Pete
Townshend article at vmgworldwide.org/ubb/Foru...0028.html.
Here’s
what you can do to prove me wrong.
Find out or
Explain:
Why hasn’t Major Asspain been paid?
Why hasn’t ANYONE
at mp3.com been paid public performance royalties - especially when
ASCAP RECEIVED THE LICENSE MONEY? Or is TIFANY BARSOTTI the DAMNED
LIAR General Farrell said she is!? See
http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/MP3Threads/tiffanybarsotti1.htm
http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/MP3Threads/tiffanybarsotti2.htm
http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/MP3Threads/tiffanybarsotti3.htm
What
was the mystery of Publishing that Steve Albini talked
about?
Find out why Pete Townshend didn’t get paid.
Explain
why the PRO’s aren’t suing ANY OMD on behalf of Publishers and
Songwriters yet are threatening websites for music such as that
described in this article http://www.musicandmore.com/news/press/day_the_music_died.htm
These
are some of the songwriters that haven’t been paid:
Lino Brescia
and John Chrysovergis
DeMarkus Bennett
Hank Garland
Strange Brew
Sabrina Pike
Young Country
Lone
Sojourners
Shaun
Ted Rekich
Chris Patrick Chamblee
Robin
Adair
T Woody
Scarecrows
Find out what happened to the
rest of Bobby Farrell, Int. Publishing’s catalog.
Find out why no
one can find the information on the bmi.com Website including the
song titles that Ms. Hilda Hicks (employed at BMI) confirmed in her
email to Bobby Farrell regarding his catalog. I originally posted
that email and the LIAR Rag Time Lady DELETED in her Thinking of
Starting a Publishing company thread. You can see that SHE edited
that post. I didn’t. I have a copy of that original email from Ms.
Hilda Hicks and if she is still employed at BMI, her email is
HHicks@BMI.com for you to confirm if for yourself. Make sure that
you post her reply and get ALL sides of the story because I have
copies of communications we’ve received from the Lying
Thieves.
Here are some of the titles that Ms. Hicks provided.
I can prove charted airplay. FIND THE CANCELLED CHECKS FOR ROYALTY
PAYMENTS! I already know you won’t be able to because THE CHECKS DO
NOT EXIST – and never did!
AGAINST YOU
4868786 C L 08/31/1999 N I 0
ALONE IN
THE SHADOWS
30143 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
ALONE WE STAND
4868787 C L 08/31/1999 N I 0
ATL LIVIN
5239788 C A 08/10/2000 N I 0
ATL STRAIGHT
LIVING
5239788 C L 08/10/2000 N I 0
BETWEEN THE
LINES
4868783 C L 08/31/1999 N I 0
CAN T RUN CAN T
HIDE 5119161
C L 04/24/2000 N I 0
COUNT THE DAYS I M GONE
249243 C L 12/10/1984 N I
0
COUNTRY
5162923 C L 05/26/2000 N I 0
COUNTRY
SPOTLIGHT
251735 C L 02/07/1977 N I 0
COWGIRL AND COWGIRL
1843836 C L 10/22/1993 N I
0
DO YOU REALLY KNOW MALCOLM 1777817
C A 03/08/1993 N I 0
DRUNK ALL OVER AGAIN
347496 C L 12/10/1984 N I
0
ENDLESS TIME
5239789 C L 08/10/2000 N I
0
EYE HAS NOT SEEN NOR EAR HE 395785
C L 06/30/1988 N I 0
FEVER OF LOVE
412926 C L
02/14/1992 N I 0
FOREVER
5281155 C L
09/19/2000 N I 0
FREEDOM
5281153 C L 09/19/2000 N I 0
HAUNTING
MEMORIES
531152 C L 01/20/1989 N I 0
HEARTACHE WRAPPED IN BLUE
547188 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
HOBOS HIGHWAYS
AND HOTDOGS 572609 C L 12/10/1984 N I
0
HOT SPOT THREE HUNDRED AND 5119149
C A 04/24/2000 N I 0
I JUST WANT TO BE CLOSE TO
630625 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
I KNOW YOU
5281283 C L 09/19/2000 N I 0
I
LL ONLY BE A MILLION MILE
642149 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
I ONLY HAVE EYE S FOR
YOU 673814 C L 02/14/1992 N I 0
IN
YOUR ARMS
723113 C L 06/05/1989 N I 0
IT COME
BACK AROUND
4868781 C L 08/31/1999 N I 0
JAMBOREE TWO THOUSAND
5119158 C A 04/24/2000 N I
0
JAMBOREE 2000
5119158 C L 04/24/2000 N I
0
KEEPER OF THE FLAME
798126 C L 01/20/1989 N I 0
LEAVE ME ALONE
844617 C L 05/07/1987 N I 0
LEAVES
5281250 C L 09/19/2000 N I
0
MAKE YOUR MARK
1843839 C L 10/22/1993 N I
0
NOTHING MORE
1088716 C L 01/20/1989 N I
0
OH NO HELL NAW
5119159 C L 04/24/2000 N I
0
OUR LOVE IS THE GREATEST TH 1138720
C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
OUTSTRETCH
5281152 C L 09/19/2000 N I 0
PART OF ME
1153779 C L 12/10/1984 N I
0
RED MAN
1236886 C L
04/04/1986 N I 0
ROCK THIS RIP THIS
5119162 C L
04/24/2000 N I 0
RUN THE RISK
1276307 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
SHE SAID
5281252 C L 09/19/2000 N I
0
SOIL OF LOVE
5281253 C L 09/19/2000 N I 0
SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LO
5282636 C L 09/20/2000 N I 0
STILL
4868790 C L 08/31/1999 N I 0
STOMPIN GROUND
5119147 C L 04/24/2000 N I 0
TAKE ME IN YOUR ARMS
1450504 C L 01/20/1989 N I
0
TAKEOFF TO LANDING
1453216 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
THIS TIME
4868789 C L 08/31/1999 N I
0
TILL THE LIGHT GO OUT
4868784 C L 08/31/1999 N I 0
TILL THE MORNING
LIGHT 1843838
C L 10/22/1993 N I 0
TRAIL OF TEARS
5119157 C L
04/24/2000 N I 0
TRUST
4868785 C L 08/31/1999 N I
0
WHEN WE ARE TOGETHER
5281154 C L 09/19/2000 N I 0
WHISPERING WINDS
1660186 C L 12/10/1984 N I 0
WORDS
4868782 C L 08/31/1999 N I
0
YOU MADE A WOMAN OUT OF ME 1723568
C L 05/07/1987 N I 0
YOU THOUGHT
4868780 C L
08/31/1999 N I 0
Stations that played these tunes paid the
EXTORTION/fees to the Liars and Thieves. Prove ONE cancelled royalty
check was paid out by BMI for ANY amount - JUST ONE! You can’t
because they were NEVER written by BMI!
DarciM, if what you
say would be true, we ALL could understand one or two songs falling
through the cracks. This isn’t the case and the above CLEARLY shows
that.
I already know what you’ll say and it is the same with
EVERY person we talk to at BMI or ASCAP. The BMI and ASCAP excuses
ALWAYS sounds like:
it isn’t my department,
the person you
need to talk to doesn’t work in my office,
the person who used
to do the job isn’t here anymore,
we don’t keep those records
current,
the person you need to speak to is out today or on
vacation,
I’m new here,
the computer is down,
send the
information again and I’LL MAKE SURE that it gets reviewed,
I
can’t find any report ANYWHERE of ANY logged airplay,
If
that is hysteria, then I am guilty. However, it ALSO doesn’t change
the fact that we’ve been STOLEN from and they are LIARS and THIEVES.
What if the above would be YOUR story - Would you be guilty of
hysteria just as you’ve called me!?
To other readers, if you
are affiliated with a PRO, you are a songwriter/publisher, gotten
radio airplay, performed your music/songs publicly, and didn’t get
paid as you should (and make sure you review what THEY say THEY’RE
supposed to do), post the information and have DarciM explain why
you didn’t get paid!
Why aren’t the PRO’s doing the job THEY
say they do, how much money it is worth to you that is STOLEN from
you? Then wonder, Damn there are so many musicians/songwriters that
are SO BROKE. This should give ALL of you an idea of why. What if
you did get paid as THEY say you SHOULD!?
DarciM, If you CAN
answer ANY of these question and get to the bottom of it with the
TRUTH, there will be thousands of songwriters/publishers that will
truly appreciate your efforts and you will be a hero. Since you
can’t, they ARE the Damned Liars and Thieves that they are and YOU
are guilty of perpetuating those Damned Lies!
Chylon
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Chylon
Who is this person?
(6/16/01 7:50:31 pm)
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something to be alarmed about.
Here’s an Offer for Phil and Still.
I will pick up
PromoLibrary tabs for each of you regarding songs that you’ve
written and registered with the Performing Rights Organization. I
hope that one of you has something with BMI so that EVERYONE can
watch the fun as it happens and DarciM’s perpetuation of the damned
lies at work!
What I want you to do is scan the registration
copy(ies) that you received returned from your PRO and put it/them
somewhere on the web where everyone can see that you’ve done the job
as DarciM suggests. I want the permission to show the copies on our
websites. I will pick up the cost of the promolibraries until we
find one song that charts. What I also need from you is radio
friendly material and mp3 formats will work, but don’t work very
well. Send me a properly done cd audio file.
The radio
friendly information/requirements is on the VMG Website. In a
nutshell, I would be looking for material that is under 3 ½ minutes
running time, get into the song in 15 seconds or less, when you're
done with the song, be done with the song, and have the song with a
good mix. I don’t even care what genre.
Each of you, give me
one song at a time, and I will load until we find something that
works. We’ll all watch these songs for a 90-day period. If we don’t
get something that works in that timeframe, then send me another
song.
For those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about
- The information about PromoLibraries is at http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/Music/diglib.html.
and the contract that we use is in .pdf format at http://www.avmrnetwork.com/AVMRMusic/Music/contract.pdf
Complete the contract because we need that information, but don’t
send the check and send me the CD. Still and Phil, you can even send
everything registered receipt so you can’t say I didn’t get it
unless everything has been signed for. Generally it takes up to 72
hours AFTER I receive the CD to get the upload done. I’ll load when
all the requirements are completed and post the
information.
By the way, I have listened to both of your
material and I thought it was pretty good – yes Phil I listened to
yours. However, that is merely my opinion and my opinion alone. I
have no idea of what the General Public would think of your
material. It is the General Public that ALWAYS makes the final
determination anyway.
Make sure that you review the contract
for the upload so that you know the only thing that I’ll do is
upload. I have no other rights to anything that you do. I’m just
performing the service of an upload through VMG and my Label
IceFire. There is NO relinquishing of your songwriting or publishing
or anything else. Who knows? All you stand to gain is worldwide
exposure that will cost you nothing. It may provide you with
information that you can use to promote your venue opportunities.
Have something new to say to the recipients of your mailing lists
and/or any other opportunity as it arises. Use the information for
your own publicity. Heck you might even be able to use the
information to seek out investment capital to further your careers.
Best of all you might even get paid the royalties from your PRO
especially now since DarciM from BMI is watching!
Everyone
else stands to gain from the information that the PRO’s are the
Liars and Thieves the VMG Campers call them and Prove that DarciM is
guilty of perpetuating the Damned Lies of their Thievery when you
don’t get paid.
Chylon
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