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lekan
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posted 01-14-2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lekan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
General,
I would like to personally thank you for the many midnight hour and very early morning phone calls that you have been subject to from me as I navigate “the business of the business”. In those calls you have very patiently answered a lot of my questions in regards to promo libraries and tracking services . As a Vandor representative I continually get questions in this area of the business. In the interest of clarity for our clients and prospective clients I would like to pose the following questions and observations for your comments.
I realize that some of the information may be privileged information (trade secrets) and I know that you will comment according to your discretion. As if I needed to say that!
Those of us who know you are well aware of your candor and new folks need to know that up front. :-)

Promo Library Questions
1. How many companies that you know of, own and operate digital promo libraries/electronic music services?
2. Who are some of those companies? Or is this privileged information?
3. Do the companies own one or several libraries and approximately how many do they each own?
4. Which company’s promo libraries are Vandor’s products uploaded to?
5. How many promo libraries of said company are we loaded into?
6. Do you feel that the product that Vandor uploads into these libraries is exposed to enough consultants, background users, and radio programmers etc. and why?
7. Are any other types of product other than music loaded into these libraries and if so, what is it and where is it used?
8. Will Vandor eventually have there own promo library/electronic music service?


Tracking Service Questions

1. How does a music user preview music for possible download from a promo library?
2. Once they have chosen product what is the process by which the music is downloaded for use in their stores, malls, transit systems, elevators etc?
3. When a user makes the download is that when the download is recorded by the tracking service? If yes, by what method is the download tracked?
4. Do the tracking services monitor the initial download only or do they monitor the subsequent use of the product by music user ie: from a parent company to its subsidiaries?
5. How many other legitimate tracking services ( like Atlantic Satellite) are you aware of?
6. General, I would like to hear your thoughts about my observations in regards to the legitimacy of Atlantic Satellite’s charts:
 There is an ongoing firestorm between Vandor and Performance Rights Organizations (PRO’s)
 Vandor and its affiliate songwriters are not being paid their justly due performance royalties.
 Why would Vandor prefer the PRO’s to take them to court?
 Vandor intends to bring thoroughly documented evidence of airplay.
 Evidence of airplay will include the charts form Atlantic Satellite.
 If Atlantic Satellite charts were not a legitimate tracking service that monitors downloads/air play, it would provide a field day for opposing attorneys to tear it apart.
 It would seem obvious that the opposing attorneys would question whether General Bobby Farrell owns, operates or has the ability to manipulate the Atlantic Satellite charts.

General,
Thanks for your valuable time and by the way the art work for both of our clients product is “off the hook”.
Lekan


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Lekan
Vandor Records Group
lekan@vmgworldwide.org
(770) 603-7900

[This message has been edited by lekan (edited 01-14-2001).]

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General Bobby Farrell
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posted 01-17-2001 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for General Bobby Farrell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In response to Lekan's Questions, some of which I know for a fact he already has the answers to and posted them for the benefit of those who don't, and for those who flatly will not pay attention under any conditions.

Promo Library Questions
1. How many companies that you know of, own and operate digital promo libraries/electronic music services?
2. Who are some of those companies? Or is this privileged information?

All the Major Companies have Electronic Media Services (promolibraries of some sort) either owned in-house or via available services. The information is not privileged, but access to those services is! EMS operations have one hell of a huge potential counterfeiting problem to contend with, and preventing compromise is one of their major expenses.

3. Do the companies own one or several libraries and approximately how many do they each own?

In this day and age, who knows? According to current inside-industry info there are about 200-250 EMS operations around the world, with about 7,000-8,000 download subscribers between them. Some have their own equipment and some have service contracts with those who have equipment. How many of those are owned by the Majors, the real nature of your question, is anybody's guess. There's no public information available.

4. Which company's promo libraries are Vandor's products uploaded to?
5. How many promo libraries of said company are we loaded into?

All of them I guess, as they trade catalog constantly. We load via Digital Broadcast Services, who at the time VMG started with them (1992) also handled all the other Majors. Since then we've seen the trade news about Warner, BMG, EMI and Universal loading titles in the hundreds of thousands at a time, for everything from broadcast to license for everything else!

6. Do you feel that the product that Vandor uploads into these libraries is exposed to enough consultants, background users, and radio programmers etc. and why?

Sure do. Once in the promolibrary catalogs everything is available to all potential music users, broadcasters, consultants, programmers, etceteras.

7. Are any other types of product other than music loaded into these libraries and if so, what is it and where is it used?

Yes. In fact, the X-Rated films/videos piped into motels come from some sort of EMS, right along with the music in the lobby. Those satellite-feed services are nothing more than EMS operations.

8. Will Vandor eventually have there own promo library/electronic music service?

You can count on it.

Tracking Service Questions
1. How does a music user preview music for possible download from a promo library?

With a computer. They do the same select'n'review only without having to change CDs! No big deal, a simple on-screen menu selection process. The new releases are flagged as such.

2. Once they have chosen product what is the process by which the music is downloaded for use in their stores, malls, transit systems, elevators etc?

Again, via computer. Some burn CDs, others have massive hard drives. However, the BIG difference is, all are broadcast quality using the technology network radio and television have used for ages on end.

3. When a user makes the download is that when the download is recorded by the tracking service? If yes, by what method is the download tracked?
4. Do the tracking services monitor the initial download only or do they monitor the subsequent use of the product by music user i.e.: from a parent company to its subsidiaries?

Downloads aren't tracked specifically. If someone were downloading a given work in real time to their system, the transfer might be monitored, but not as a download, only as a transfer. Then when that user airs the product, whether as a station, syndicator, program feed, etceteras, the transfer is subject to monitor again. And, just like the BBS process, each work is identified by its digital signature.

5. How many other legitimate tracking services (like Atlantic Satellite) are you aware of?

First, Atlantic Satellite IS NOT a tracking service! They monitor satellite channels and Arnie Rupprect posts the Top 2,500 out of the 35,000 (or so) works being played at any given time around the world.

The BBS (a Billboard Company, so you KNOW how 'honest' that one is) reputes to monitor some 1,700-1,800 United States/Canadian broadcasters, and I don't buy one damned word of it. Anything ASCAP claims to use more of than anybody else is damned sure corrupt top-to-bottom!

The SCAM of 'tracking' is probably the #1 fleecing-process right behind the 'send-it-in' stupidities of Aunt Ninny and Uncle Stupid. And the IDIOT ELEMENT will fall for it every time.

That's why VMG doesn't offer the service!

Every phony-baloney 'tracking' service I've encountered in my near-60 years in this business is nothing more than the results of the few reporting stations of that service. Nothing national, and even less inter-national. A few mom&pop stations 'reporting' to a scam operation, like the 'Nashville Indie Tracker' mag, does not a legitimate tracking service make!

6. General, I would like to hear your thoughts about my observations in regards to the legitimacy of Atlantic Satellite's charts:
„h There is an ongoing firestorm between Vandor and Performance Rights Organizations (PROs)
„h Vandor and its affiliate songwriters are not being paid their justly due performance royalties.
„h Why would Vandor prefer the PROs to take them to court?

SO WE CAN COUNTER-SUE ON THEIR MONEY!

„h Vandor intends to bring thoroughly documented evidence of airplay.
„h Evidence of airplay will include the charts form Atlantic Satellite.
„h If Atlantic Satellite charts were not a legitimate tracking service that monitors downloads/air play, it would provide a field day for opposing attorneys to tear it apart.
„h It would seem obvious that the opposing attorneys would question whether General Bobby Farrell owns, operates or has the ability to manipulate the Atlantic Satellite charts.

I hope they so! So that when I put Arnie and Amanda on the stand I can really tear them a brand new set of rectums!

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Former COO, Vandor Music Group
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